A Random Being ([info]fwibble) wrote,
Me again. After watching PoA, my brain came alive and I was up until 3am, digging out quotes and things from OotP. The fandom has eaten my brain *nodnod*

Yes, I'm still fixating on Regulus being R.A.B.

Let's see what we know about Regulus:

* He's smart - despite what his prejudiced git of a big brother says, why else would Slughorn want "the set"? He was disappointed he didn't get the "talented" Sirius, but was happy with the brother, which says that Regulus must have been nearly as talented.

* He's Slytherin - Therefore, we have cunning and loyalty combined. Unlike Sirius, he was loyal to their parents, though we don't know if he agreed/disagreed with their ideals. We only have Sirius' word on this and Sirius thought Peter Pettigrew was his trusted pal.

* He's the younger son - This meant he was probably trying to prove himself a lot more to his parents. If the Blacks were as old-school as they seem, there was probably a good deal of the "heir and spare" mentality, until Sirius went "Sod you sideways" and left.

* He was a Death Eater - It doesn't say when he joined, but it's clear he's for the pure-blooded society and when it comes to death, destruction and mayhem, he wasn't prepared to go that far.

* He died 15 years before OotP - If I've worked this out correctly, if JKR is being sneakily precise in OotP, he died just after the Prophecy. It'll be about July/August 1995, when Harry's in Grimmauld Place. 15 years earlier was when the Prophecy was made ;)

* He died a few days after skipping out on Voldemort - So, either he was very clumsy or he did something that really didn't go down well with the bossman.

Now, here are my theories on Regulus being R.A.B.

Harry notes in OotP that only Death Eaters refer to Voldemort as 'the Dark Lord'. The note from R.A.B. is addressed to 'The Dark Lord', highlighting that it's one of his trusted minions, though apparently not trusted enough.

Sirius says he doesn't think Regulus was ever important enough to be killed by Voldemort himself, which I concur with. Judging by the note, R.A.B. knew Voldemort wouldn't get him personally, because - if LV came after him - he would be able to read his mind and know he absconded with the trinket. If this was the case, why would R.A.B. bother writing a note to say "I'll be dead when you get this, so nyah nyah!".

He knew Voldemort wouldn't come after him personally. He never joined to be a Voldemort fanboy, so that's why he was probably not very high ranking, unlike his somewhat insane and "OMG VOLDIMORTE R TEH KEWLIES!!1" cousin, Bellatrix. He joined, because of the ideals, not because of the leadership, which probably irritated Voldemort enough to leave him as a low-ranking DE.

Referring back to the fact he was clever and a Slytherin suggests he was cunning enough to keep to the background, learning what he could about his boss and looking for any way he might be able to get out. After all, it's said that a lot of the Pure-blood families agreed with LV until he showed his "true colours" and by then, the DE's involved would know there was no way out unless by death.

This implies, to me, that Regulus knew enough about Voldemort to want out, but didn't know how to do it. After all, he couldn't exactly kill LV, what with all those Horcruxes, which the more observant and dark-magic-knowing DE's probably knew about. And who wants to die for your beliefs, when ti won't make any difference in the long run? So, Regulus has to bide his time a while.

And I see LV being quite smug about the fact that he's immortal. No doubt, a clever witch/wizard/R.A.B. would observe enough to realise what he had done, especially a person raised by dark witches and wizards, like Regulus was. Still, he doesn't think as twistedly as Voldemort does.

Look at the note: the way it's written, it appears that the writer thinks that he has got the only Horcrux. He goes to destroy in hopes that it will make Voldemort mortal. After all, no one save Voldemort has done the Horcrux thing multiple times before, so why should he suspect there are more than 2 or 3 of the things?

So, LV is immortal and R.A.B. knows it's death to try and escape. Until... what's this? A Prophecy stating that someone will be born who will have the power to defeat Voldemort? But... but they won't be able to , because he has his soul divided and there's no way he can die until his Horcrux is destroyed.

R.A.B. has been planning to get out anyway and realises that, if he can get a hold of the horcrux (at least, the one he knows about). So, he heads off, knowing he'll be dead anyway, filtches the little trinket and most likely makes a break for Grimmauld Place to stash it, before running.

My bets say that the locket they find while clearing up, hidden in the precious trinkets cabinet, is the one they need. Regulus probably stashed it amongst all the sentimental crap he knew no one would look at. Plus, it doesn't open anyway, so who would care? (What's the betting that Parseltongue could have something to do with that, eh? :D) And his parents definitely aren't DE's, so they wouldn't be able to get it back to its owner.

So, Regulus tucks it away and legs it, to put distance between himself and it. More than likely cousin Bella comes after him, all crazy and fervent and determined to do her Lord's will, never even pausing to wonder why little cousin is quitting so readily, uncaring of anything.

And so, Regulus dies, without Voldemort ever knowing that Regulus hax0red into his cave, nicked his soul-fragment. I'd love to see the look on Voldemort's face if he found the note. 'Not best pleased' would be a minor understatement.

There was something else, but I can't remember what it is now. Enough to say I've been frantically re-reading bits of OotP and mix-and-matching them with what I now know from HBP.

Yes, my brain has been consumed afresh :)

ETA: Harry catches Mundungus with items stolen from the Black House, including the goblets Sirius chucked out. If he has raided the rubbish, he'll have also found a certain locket which was thrown out.

Who was Mundungus talking to before trying to flee Harry? Wasn't it the barman from the Hog's Head? Ie. Aberforth? Please tell me I'm not wrong about this, because, oh that would be such a perfect way to bring Aberforth in to help! :D
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[info]archetypal

July 18 2005, 13:49:48 UTC 6 years ago

I triple dog dare you to write this. *looks innocent*

[info]fyrie

July 18 2005, 17:48:08 UTC 6 years ago

If I had time, I might consider it, but no... no time :-S Too many things unfinished as well :(

[info]shes_unreal

July 18 2005, 16:32:28 UTC 6 years ago

That's the first thing that popped into my head, too.

What a yawner. J.K.'s getting too predictable.

[info]randomchris

July 18 2005, 19:33:12 UTC 6 years ago

Yes, that makes an awful lot of sense.

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 10:05:25 UTC 6 years ago

I shouldn't have read the book. My brain has been entirely consumed. I can't stop thinking!

[info]whisperwords

July 18 2005, 21:35:00 UTC 6 years ago

You're right and you know it. *pimps this six ways from Sunday*

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 10:06:05 UTC 6 years ago

*grins* Or JKR has us all fooled :D

[info]rune_heart

July 18 2005, 21:47:19 UTC 6 years ago

OMG. I also suspected Regulus, but had little proof, but that was because I couldn't be bothered to reread the books. *bows at damn good theory*

*also pimps six ways from sunday*

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 10:07:40 UTC 6 years ago

*grins* I had a friend who reminded me of the locket and since I'm a crazy person for the little details, I immediately flailed my way to any point where Regulus was mentioned in OotP and lo, an idea that worked :D

[info]evilnel

July 18 2005, 22:41:01 UTC 6 years ago

Somebody linked this page on a forum. We were discussing the Regulus theory so I came to check it out.

I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said, and to help you out:

Firstly, Sirius and Regulus had an uncle named Alphard, which is a possible middle name for Regulus. Often people name children after other people, so perhaps his middle initial is A from that.

Aside from that, here's something a friend pointed out to me that I took the liberty of finding. On page 116 of Order of the Phoenix (US version), in the chapter The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black, it says: "There was a musical box that emitted a faintly sinister, tinkling tune when wound, and they all found themselves becoming curiously weak and sleepy until Ginny had the sense to slam the lid shut; also a heavy locket that none of them could open..."

Really now? A heavy and unopenable locket? Perhaps it contains some rather weighty matter. A soul, for instance? It was just mentioned in passing, but leave it to J.K. to place something foreshadowing so subtly in a paragraph that one would barely notice it...

Hopefully this will help add to your theory. :)

-Gwen

Anonymous

July 19 2005, 10:00:55 UTC 6 years ago

*grins* Someone on my flist mentioned the locket the day the book came out, so I shamelessly borrowed it to make it fit my thheory when I wrote it:

My bets say that the locket they find while clearing up, hidden in the precious trinkets cabinet, is the one they need. Regulus probably stashed it amongst all the sentimental crap he knew no one would look at. Plus, it doesn't open anyway, so who would care? (What's the betting that Parseltongue could have something to do with that, eh? :D) And his parents definitely aren't DE's, so they wouldn't be able to get it back to its owner.
<- I love the idea of them already having had hands on the Horcrux, then thrown it away :D

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 10:10:01 UTC 6 years ago

P.S. The above post was me [info]fyrie/[info]fwibble, in case you wondered :)

[info]evilnel

July 19 2005, 18:05:22 UTC 6 years ago

I really like the idea that they already have one too. Harry will be forced to return to a place haunted with so many memories.

One question, though. If Dumbledore was the secret keeper for the Order HQ, do you think that now somebody could tell where it is? Snape may have to, because now that the secret keeper is dead, it would be suspicious for him not to say... You seem to have this all worked out, so what do you think?

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 18:19:45 UTC 6 years ago

Regarding Grimmauld Place, they said they would have change locations until it was verified that Hary was the legal owner, but they never said they returned to it, but if they did start using it again, I suspect Dumbledore made preparations in the event of his demise.

Also, it got me wondering - surely Black relatives would still know where to find the house? Secretly, it's the OotP lair, but would it just vanish if, say, Bellatrix came looking for it? Wouldn't that give away that she would know where the lair was?

Also, a friend offered me a theory that Mundungus Fletcher nicked a lot of the rubbish from Grimmauld Place and he was seen talking to Aberforth Dumbledore, so it is possible Aberforth will be involved in book 7 ;D

[info]evilnel

July 19 2005, 18:26:01 UTC 6 years ago

That's true. Dumbledore was never one to be unprepared. Hell, if we're right he planned his own death!

I was wondering about the fact that Black relatives could still come looking for it too. But maybe it just occurred to them that they wouldn't be able to get into it because if Sirius were there, he'd probably have been using it as a hideout from the Dementors and had taken precautions... or something.

It would be cool if Aberforth would make an appearance in the next book. I've been curious about him for a while. I wonder if he's as powerful as his brother?

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 18:36:56 UTC 6 years ago

Aberforth has actually made appearances in two of the books: he's the barman at the Hog's Head in Hogsmeade, whom Harry thinks is very familiar, because he looks like his big brother ;)

I can't help thinking he's being a bit of a spy for Dumbledore as well, just cos it would be such a wasted opportunity if he wasn't.

[info]evilnel

July 19 2005, 18:42:53 UTC 6 years ago

Oooh, I never made that connection before!

He must be spying if here's there. What better place is there go to hear people chatting about personal matters? XD

[info]fyrie

July 19 2005, 18:56:34 UTC 6 years ago

I cheated on that front - JKR put it up on her website :D

[info]evilnel

July 19 2005, 18:58:51 UTC 6 years ago

lol, her website is so very useful. I'm guilty of a bit of cheating on that front too. XD

[info]angelislington

October 6 2005, 08:04:26 UTC 6 years ago


I DIDN'T KNOW THAT OMG I AM SO STOOOPEEEEED

*waaaahhh*

:-P

[info]fyrie

October 6 2005, 18:41:14 UTC 6 years ago

*g* I only know because I lurked on JKR's website like a crazy fangirl omg :)

The bartender in the Hogs head is described as being familiar to Harry and smelling vaguely of goats and that's what Aberforth was known for (naughty charms on goats :D)

[info]angelislington

October 6 2005, 08:07:00 UTC 6 years ago


*JAW DROP*

omgomgomgomg the locket that is so amazing and sooooooooooo JK omg i am the worst fangirl evereverever not to notice the connection that is so brilliant i am soo totally rambling right now but i dont care because i'm just so gobsmacked omg! *laughs*

[info]fyrie

October 6 2005, 18:39:32 UTC 6 years ago

*grins* Rowling is so sneaky, I wouldn't put it past her :D

[info]burningtoast

July 20 2005, 05:10:02 UTC 6 years ago

Why, why, WHY, DAMMIT! didn't I think of this?

Brilliant, you are. Brilliant! Of course, that would be just like Rowling to throw in a little aside like that and have it turn out to be a crucial plot point.
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